*NEW* Thirdstyle Difficulty Discussion [1-25 scale]

HowHard Junior Member
edited May 2013 in ThirdStyle General
[CENTER]Well the last thread was "accidentally" deleted, but luckily Jason and Tiza were able to recover it.

Anyways, discuss what you think the difficulties for Thirdstyle Songs are using the 1-25 scale
1 = Least Difficult while 25 = Most Difficult

With your help, we can replace the hopelessly broken algorithm system!

KEY: [BEG][EASY][MED][HARD]


Thirdstyle Difficulty List (WIP)

!/PiXeLaTed\! [3][8][13][19]
#winning [1][6][12][16]
/Mu/tant Corecore [1][9][14][24]
12 Bar Bloops [3][-][18][21]
13 Reasons [2][-][-][16]
1901 [4][-][-][16]
2AO3 Nightmares [3][-][-][18]
A Kidney Stone [4][10][17][20]
A Lifetime (F-777 ReMiX) [1][-][-][19]
Abyssal [2][-][-][23]
Adrenaline [3][-][-][19]
Agepoyo [2][-][-][20]
Alice Underwater [2][-][-][20]
Amber Starlight, I Love You [2][-][-][17]
An Atlas To Solutions [1][-][-][18]
An Exaggerated Simulation of Plasma... [4][-][-][20]
Are Those Jeans Too Tight Or Are You... [1][-][-][16]
ASDFSong [2][9][14][18]
Aspiration [2][-][-][17]
Aye, Julian [3][-][-][18]
Banana Tango [3][-][-][18]
Bayyaa We Shater [3][-][-][19]
Being [5][-][-][20]
Betrayal Of Fate [3][-][-][16]
Big [2][-][-][18]
Big Neys Yadda [2][-][-][18]
Birthright (Birthwrong Mix by Blue... [3][-][-][17]
Black Snow [1][-][-][15]
Black Wing Metamorphosis (One-Win... [2][-][-][17]
Blackout City (130 Speed Mix) [3][-][-][20]
Blizzard [2][-][-][16]
Bloody Tears [3][-][-][19]
Blue Marine [4][-][-][17]
Booties [1][-][-][15]
BootyTime [3][-][-][20]
Bound And Gagged [4][-][-][19]
Brambles Open Mind Like Bubbles [4][-][-][18]
Brand New Nikes [3][-][-][19]
Braving The Flooding Tides [4][-][-][19]
BRODYQUEST [4][-][-][17]
Burning Bright [2][-][-][15]
Callisto [3][-][-][18]
Candy Dance [3][-][-][18]
Canon Rock (Guitar by JStripp100) [2][-][-][21]
Carbonate [2][-][-][17]
Carol Of 10,000 Hells [2][-][-][20]
Carol Of The Bells (AugustBurnsRed) [2][-][-][17]
Carol Of The Bells (AkousticBrock) [2][-][-][18]
Celtic Jungle [3][-][-][18]
Cha-Cha Moderne [6][-][-][21]
Champion's Horizon (Route #26) [2][-][-][18]
Chaoz Airflow [2][-][-][18]
Chaoz Fantasy [-][-][-][-]
Chemical Blip [2][-][-][18]
Chinter's Will [4][-][-][17]
Chocobreaks [3][-][-][19]
Christmas Time Is Here [2][-][-][17]
Chuneville [2][-][-][17]
Cirno's Perfect Math Class [5][-][-][18]
CLIFFCORE [3][-][-][19]
Clockwork Beast (TS Mix) [2][-][-][16]
Close To Home [1][-][-][16]
Closure [5][-][-][18]
Coaxing the Piano [Midi by Perfessor... [2][-][-][17]
Color Of Giggles [4][-][-][21]
Coma [3][-][-][20]
Conflict [feat. Siromaru] [3][-][-][19]
Confused [2][-][-][20]
Copypasta [2][-][-][17]
Crazy [4][-][-][18]
Creatures ov Deception [2][-][-][18]
Crows Ghost [2][-][-][19]
Crushing on E951 [3][-][-][18]
Daeva Part IV [4][-][-][19]
Dancecore Dream [2][-][-][18]
Dark Cloud 2 Battle RMX [1][-][-][16]
Dead Serious [2][-][-][16]
Dear Sergio [1][-][-][18]
Dearly Beloved [1][-][-][16]
Deck The Halls [2][-][-][19]
Dedede Invades Equestria [3][-][-][19]
Deedeloodee Deedoo [1][-][-][17]
Delawho [1][-][-][18]
Destiny [3][-][-][21]
Destroyer [3][-][-][18]
Dishevel [2][-][19][23]
Donut Genocide [4][-][-][17]
Double Bug [4][-][-][20]
Dracula [-][-][-][-]
Eating Candies [3][-][-][17]
Edit (Padlock Remix) [3][-][-][18]
End Of The Earth [2][-][-][16]
Endless Sky [-][-][-][-]
Epilogue [5][-][-][19]
Eric [2][-][-][17]
Etude On A Nimbus [3][-][-][18]
Euphoria [3][-][-][18]
Evacuate The Moshpit [-][-][-][-]
Everything Went Numb [4][-][-][19]
Excessive Sex [3][-][-][17]
Extratone Pirates [3][-][-][22]
F [2][-][-][17]
Fall And 106 [3][-][-][16]
Falling Embers [1][-][-][14]
Falling For You [2][-][-][17]
Fast Turtle [3][-][-][17]
FFX Battle Theme [1][-][-][16]
Field of Snow [2][-][-][19]
Flames of the Sky [2][-][-][18]
Freaking Club Music (McMaNGOS S*** Mix) [2][-][-][20]
Frozen (Frozen Opelucid City Remix) [-][-][-][-]
Fury Of The Storm <--==[25]==-->
Future Destination [-][-][-][17]
Gateway [-][-][-][20]
GAYCORE [-][-][-][20]
Good Evening, London [-][-][-][17]
Good Morning, Sir [-][-][-][19]
Gourmet Race Piano [2][-][-][18]
Greek Fire [-][-][-][16]
Grenada [-][-][-][16]
Goodnight [-][-][-][17]
Guys Don't Like Me [-][-][-][16]
Hardkore Atomic [-][-][-][19]
He Has No Mittens [2][-][-][19]
He's a Pirate (F-777 ReMiX) [-][-][-][19]
Hello Houston [-][-][-][17]
Here In My Heart [-][-][-][16]
Here In Your Arms [-][-][-][15]
High Current [-][-][-][17]
Hinarin's Relation of Misfortune [2][6][15][19]
Home [-][-][-][15]
Hyperdisco [-][-][-][22]
I Just Wanna Run [-][-][-][14]
I Scream Ice Cream [-][-][-][19]
I See You Staring [-][-][-][16]
I'll Pray For You [1][-][-][16]
I'm A F***ing Car [-][-][-][20]
I'm Not Letting You Down Now [-][-][-][18]
If I'm James Dean, You're Audrey Hep... [-][-][-][17]
Illumination [-][-][-][16]
Imprisoned [-][-][-][20]
Indecision [-][-][-][17]
Inevitron [-][-][-][19]
Infernoplex [4][-][-][19]
Intentions [-][-][-][17]
Internal Cannon [-][-][-][18]
Irish Dancing [-][-][-][20]
Is It Really You? [-][-][-][17]
Is So Fun [-][-][-][20]
Jam On [ft. Cisco Adler] [-][-][-][15]
Japan Style Breakcore 2 [-][-][-][23]
Jig [-][-][-][16]
Jingle Bells Speedcore [-][-][-][23]
Journey [-][-][-][20]
JPEG_Jive [-][-][-][22]
jpop remixu [1][-][-][18]
Kaleidoscope [-][-][-][14]
Kick Back [-][-][-][15]
Kick It With Our Clothes Off [-][-][-][16]
Kick-Off [-][-][-][17]
Kiss Me [-][-][-][16]
Klappa Handerna [1][-][18][22]
La Da Da (Remix) [-][-][-][16]
La lune du minuit eternel [-][-][-][17]
Lata 90-te maszkor [-][-][-][20]
Level Ninety-Nine [-][-][-][19]
Life's Good (The Rugrat Song) [-][-][-][13]
Liquid Requiem [-][-][-][18]
Little Bitch [-][-][-][16]
LOL [-][-][-][14]
Long Time, No See [-][-][-][17]
LoZ: Fi's Theme [2][-][-][16]
Lullaby de Amor [-][-][-][19]
MachinRAa Black Steel [1][-][-][17]
Magnum [-][-][-][20]
Make It Work [-][-][-][-]
Make Your Move [-][-][-][-]
Man-He [-][-][-][22]
Matador [-][-][-][-]
Max Volume Required [-][-][-][-]
MCs and DJs [-][-][-][17]
Me Before Women and Children [-][-][-][-]
Mean A Swing [-][-][-][17]
Merry Christmas Mr.Lawrence [-][-][-][-]
Metroid and the Monolith [-][-][-][-]
Midnight Forever [-][-][-][-]
Midnight Lightning Bolt [-][-][-][-]
Mirage Garden [-][-][-][21]
Monotone [-][-][-][18]
Monster In The Water [-][-][-][22]
Mory Miphon (Power Rangers) [-][-][-][17]
My Friend Mudkip [-][-][-][20]
Nervous [3][-][-][20]
Never Enough [-][-][-][-]
Ni Pensarte [-][-][-][-]
Ninja Gaiden [-][-][-][18]
No Girlfriend [-][-][-][17]
Now Get Busy [-][-][-][17]
Nugeba litte Monjanai [-][-][-][18]
Number 99 With An Anchor [-][-][-][-]
Off Track [-][-][-][-]
Old School Luv [-][-][-][23]
On the Origin of Species (Evolution) [-][-][-][-]
Open Your Eyes [-][-][-][-]
Operation: Evolution [-][-][-][20]
Oprah Shmup [3][-][-][22]
Orchestral Aura [-][-][-][15]
Ordinary World [-][-][-][-]
Overdrive [-][-][-][19]
Paper Doopliss [-][-][-][19]
Paper Scissors Stone [-][-][-][16]
Paradise On E Remake [-][-][-][17]
Phantasmagoria Mystical Expectation [-][-][-][-]
Planet of the Chunes [-][-][-][-]
PLANETCORE [-][-][-][19]
Platform [-][-][-][18]
Pokemon GS Lance Battle [-][-][-][20]
Pork Cylinders [-][-][-][18]
Power of Dream (Night Fever Refix) [-][-][-][-]
Power Of Rock [-][-][-][14]
Quality Underground [-][-][-][-]
Quantum [-][-][-][19]
Raatid Fiah!! (Nice Up Ravestep Remix) [-][-][-][-]
Rape Castle [-][-][-][18]
Rave Your Pussy [-][-][-][21]
Raggaeton Virtual [-][-][-][17]
Ready For War [-][-][-][18]
Retrolution [-][-][-][20]
Revenge of the Plushophile [-][-][-][20]
Ride N Bass [1][6][11][16]
Rivers and Streams [-][-][-][17]
Roots of Life [-][-][-][17]
RT IF YOU REMEMBER THE 80s [-][5][-][16]
Rumble [-][-][-][18]
Saffron City [-][-][-][24]
Scars Of Yesterday [-][-][-][-]
See You In Virginia [-][-][-][-]
Session [-][-][-][-]
Seven and Seven [-][-][-][-]
Shadows [3][-][-][-]
Shower of Life [1][-][-][15]
Sleet [-][-][-][19]
Sly (Remastered) [-][-][-][-]
SmokeWeedEvryDay [1][-][-][-]
Snoop Dogg's Smoke-Out!!! [-][-][-][19]
Something Salty, Something Sweet [-][-][-][-]
Space Oblivion [-][-][-][-]
Speedcore 300 [-][-][-][24]
Speedcore Vibes [ft VWT] [-][-][-][-]
Stay The Night [1][-][-][-]
Stop [-][-][-][-]
Suddenly, kittens! [-][-][-][-]
Sun Makina [1][4][12][18]
SuperExciteBike [-][-][-][17]
Superhuman Hijiri's Air-Muscle [-][-][-][-]
Super Sonic Ska [-][-][-][20]
Supernova [-][-][-][21]
Syrup [-][-][-][20]
Szycag [5][-][-][19]
Takkan Terhenti Disini [-][-][-][-]
Tell Me Why Speedcore Is So Awesome [-][-][-][22]
Terraformer [-][-][-][-]
Teriakan Bebas [-][-][-][-]
Tetristep [-][-][-][-]
The Air I Breathe [-][-][-][18]
The Ball Drop [-][-][-][-]
The Cracking Sky [-][-][-][14]
The Dream Of Scarlet [-][-][-][-]
The Fallout of Eli [ft. Brynner Agassi] [-][-][-][-]
The Final Conflict [-][-][-][18]
The Final Hour [-][-][-][-]
The Girl Oceanic [-][-][-][18]
The Great Storm [-][-][-][-]
The Invasion From Within [3][-][16][22]
The Life and Death of Kirby [-][-][-][-]
The Listening [-][-][-][-]
The Lovely, Freezing, Tomboyish Bat.. [-][-][-][-]
The Oath [2][-][-][17]
The Only Medicine [-][-][-][-]
The Scroll and Dragon [2][-][-][-]
The Steel Monster Above The City [-][-][-][-]
The Tormented [-][-][-][-]
Things That Rhyme With Orange [2][-][-][17]
Thinking Mode [-][-][-][-]
Thirdstyle Ultimate Diss Freestyle <--==[24]==-->
Through The Gates (Abbv.) [-][-][-][-]
Thy Hero Within [-][-][-][18]
Time To Body Wash [-][-][-][-]
TRIBAL RIDDEMS [-][-][-][23]
Tricky's Song [2][-][-][14]
Try To Find A Way [-][-][-][-]
Turkey X [3][-][-][22]
Turkish Rondo (Remix) [-][-][-][-]
Twinkle Star [2][-][-][21]
ULTRAnumb [-][-][-][-]
Under 18 [1][-][-][18] (lol)
Unforgivable [-][-][-][-]
Unusual [-][-][-][-]
Vicinity Of Obscinity [-][-][-][-]
Vision23 [-][-][-][-]
Wake Up And Watch The Rain Fall [-][-][-][19]
Waltz of Melted Snow [-][-][-][-]
Want It Harder [-][-][-][-]
Wasted On Arrival [-][-][-][-]
Way of the Samurai [-][-][-][17]
We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together [-][-][-][-]
What I Love The Most [-][-][-][-]
Wings [2][-][-][-]
With Ears To See And Eyes To Hear [-][-][-][19]
Xanthystrauma [-][-][-][22]
Xuxa [-][-][-][18]
Yeah Yeah Baby Yeah Up In Here [2][7][-][18]
Year Of The Bad Dragon [-][-][-][23]
You And Me [-][-][-][16]
You Should Drink Cucumber Flavored Beer! [-][-][-][24]
Zelda II Dungeon Theme [-][-][-][20]
Zenith [-][-][-][18]
{Midnight} [-][-][-][21]
{Rose} [-][-][-][18]
{Stay With Me} [-][-][-][-]


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Comments

  • PowerstarsPowerstars Senior Member
    edited November 2012
    -Klappa Handerna (B: 01)

    (More suggestions soon...maybe)
  • MrTeaMrTea Official Back-Up Simfile Judge
    edited January 2013
    BE MORE ACTIVE ALREADY
  • TheVCRManTheVCRMan Senior Member
    edited January 2013
    We should work on just getting every hard file judged for now, then fill in the blanks later. Also if this would be an official thing, rather then just a thread on the forums that'd be useful. Lol.
  • NocturneNocturne Simfiler and <span style="font-style:italic">Freakin Graphics Master</span>
    edited January 2013
    TheVCRman;31153 said:
    We should work on just getting every hard file judged for now, then fill in the blanks later. Also if this would be an official thing, rather then just a thread on the forums that'd be useful. Lol.
    Feel completely free to post suggestions for difficulties!
  • MourningfallMourningfall Junior Member
    edited May 2013
    Should Blizzard really be considered a 16? 13-14/25 feels more accurate, maybe even 12.
  • MrTeaMrTea Official Back-Up Simfile Judge
    edited May 2013
    Mourningfall;39528 said:
    Should Blizzard really be considered a 16? 13-14/25 feels more accurate, maybe even 12.
    When you try to change a difficulty, please give us an argument to work with before we consider it.
    At any rate, the best thing to do this early in the project is to assign ratings to the charts that dont have them.
  • MourningfallMourningfall Junior Member
    edited May 2013
    I feel there needs to be some kind of formula to factor in the nps, songlength, use of holds, dynamic bpm changes and 'intensity' of files and once there's an established base difficulty judges can subjectively tweek the difficulty to factor in the complexity of patterns considered difficult or awkward. I'm no expert but I really think notes per second and song length should be a key component in determining the difficulty.
    Seems like a more controlled and orderly way of getting the new difficulty scale up and started~
  • MrTeaMrTea Official Back-Up Simfile Judge
    edited May 2013
    Thats the problem though. You cant really assign a formula for these things. We tried that with the current algo and it just simply is not working.
    After we get all the difficulties in we can tweak them then as people argue over them
  • PowerstarsPowerstars Senior Member
    edited May 2013
    I'd say the Easy file for RT IF YOU REMEMBER THE 80S is like a 2-5.
  • MrTeaMrTea Official Back-Up Simfile Judge
    edited May 2013
    Powerstars;39532 said:
    I'd say the Easy file for RT IF YOU REMEMBER THE 80S is like a 2-5.
    Mind giving a number? 2-5 is like 4 different possibly ratings and i cant excatly put that down
  • PowerstarsPowerstars Senior Member
    edited May 2013
    DefTeaMachine;39533 said:
    Mind giving a number? 2-5 is like 4 different possibly ratings and i cant excatly put that down
    Probably a 5.
  • No, keep the difficulty range (1-100) the way it is.
    It gives me an indication as to what my skill level is.
    Plus, it's more accurate than 1-25.
    However, you can change the difficulties of certain songs, but still have it at 1-100

    Wait, I read this wrong, I thought is was whether you change the system to 1-25.
    FlashFlashRevolution changed their 1-20 system to 1-100 system, so I want this to be 1-100 as well.
  • MrTeaMrTea Official Back-Up Simfile Judge
    thread is dead man
  • TheVCRManTheVCRMan Senior Member
    ts is dead man
  • OnilateurOnilateur Junior Member
    blurayman is dead man
  • dead men :c
  • NocturneNocturne Simfiler and <span style="font-style:italic">Freakin Graphics Master</span>
    bump
  • FenrilFenril Designer
    some of these are good, but a lot of these I disagree with

    I'd be more than willing to help manually sort difficulties if administration plans on removing the algorithm in the near future
  • NocturneNocturne Simfiler and <span style="font-style:italic">Freakin Graphics Master</span>
    Should we keep 1-25 or adjust the scaling accordingly? I was thinking 1-50 or 1-100
  • 1-100 better
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